tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post115115066657724091..comments2024-01-21T03:26:23.301-05:00Comments on Musings: The Civil Rights Institute and a few other things from my travelssagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17499891950639742366noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1151497579895436732006-06-28T08:26:00.000-04:002006-06-28T08:26:00.000-04:00Sage - I found out the secret to posting pictures ...Sage - I found out the secret to posting pictures using the blogger tool. Insert the picture first and then paste in your text and last, position your picture to where you want it to be. That way seems to work every time for some reason.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13214319366049620074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1151441338566399132006-06-27T16:48:00.000-04:002006-06-27T16:48:00.000-04:00Ing, on that dam lake, I was missing river canoein...Ing, on that dam lake, I was missing river canoeing too. I remember a bar in a small town in Nevada that had a sign behind that bar saying "No N-- Allowed." I was shocked and that was probably 15 years ago. I would like to explore North Dakota sometime--I've never driven it but did take the train across it once and the towns seemed so sad, but interesting.<BR/><BR/>V-I'm cheap, so the ETA on my digital camera is a long ways into the future! Besides, I'm having a heck of a time posting pictures I already have to blogger. Good to see you back around.sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17499891950639742366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1151425860152843182006-06-27T12:31:00.000-04:002006-06-27T12:31:00.000-04:00As always superb post Sage man. For those of us w...As always superb post Sage man. For those of us who have never been to Birmingham you've described two national treasures very elegantly.<BR/><BR/>Glad to see the canoe trip was a workout and some fun. Did you take any nature pics? Any thoughts on scanning them? Hah, how about an ETA on a digital camera. Lol, sorry for my ill manners it's just that you take a lot of nature trips and us blog neighbors could sure live vicariously through the pictures. Must be lovely over there.<BR/><BR/>Great post!vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18308061674357594371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1151386845476954282006-06-27T01:40:00.000-04:002006-06-27T01:40:00.000-04:00I miss river canoeing. About ten years ago I drov...I miss river canoeing. <BR/><BR/>About ten years ago I drove through North Dakota and saw a sign on a bar: NO INDIANS ALLOWED. Seems illegal, doesn't it?inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03877741066021169188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1151345055130364722006-06-26T14:04:00.000-04:002006-06-26T14:04:00.000-04:00Utenzi, The rapids may have been more than a class...Utenzi, The rapids may have been more than a class one if we had more water. I'm not sure what the book rated them, I was just saying they were fast and okay, but not too exciting (but they sure beat paddling the lake)<BR/><BR/>Pia, it was heartbreaking to explore the world in which those girls lived and died and to talk with people who were there when it happened.<BR/><BR/>Chana, why don't you invite me down to Texas sometime in January?<BR/><BR/>Ed, it's been years since I paddled a kayak regularly. You're right about the "cheat" routes, but they're not always available depending on the water level, however, the water level can increase or decrease the skill one needs in the rapids. As for the tunnel, it's 8 feet wide and around 1000 feet long (from what I'm told). In high water, you're to avoid it and if you can't see light at the end, you're also to watch out since it does pick up stainers. I would like to see it because it is a marvel of mining engineering--diverting a river to get at the rock in the river bed.sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17499891950639742366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1151324246739505422006-06-26T08:17:00.000-04:002006-06-26T08:17:00.000-04:00Because I have a self mandated weekend hiatus on b...Because I have a self mandated weekend hiatus on blogging, I'm a little late but for what it is worth...<BR/><BR/>I'm sure I would have the same feelings as you upon visiting the museum. I remember watching the movie "Dances With Wolves" and feeling like a real a*%hole as I was walking out simply because I was white. I was also embarrassed once over in Europe when a bunch of young cowboys from Texas got on the same train I was riding and started cussing and generally be obnoxious. <BR/><BR/>Yeah class one is anything from moving water to small ripples. I've paddled it all from I to V in a kayak but I have to add that paddling a class V rapids does not mean you were actually doing class V paddling. There is almost always a "cheat" route where you can avoid the really dicey stuff. I did the Grand Canyon where their scale goes to 10+ and there was only one rapid that I probably could not have done in a kayak and that was Hance Rapids and there was no "cheat" route short of portaging.<BR/><BR/>I envision this tunnel you described and I imagine stainer city and certain death. No way would I paddle into a tunnel with no place to eddy out!Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13214319366049620074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1151287005250698532006-06-25T21:56:00.000-04:002006-06-25T21:56:00.000-04:00Well welcome home and next time journey on down he...Well welcome home and next time journey on down here to Texas before you start complaining about the temp! ;)<BR/>Chana<BR/>www.bunnyburrow.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1151257916883525382006-06-25T13:51:00.000-04:002006-06-25T13:51:00.000-04:00Another wonderful journey SageI have never forgot ...Another wonderful journey Sage<BR/><BR/>I have never forgot those four girls, they were my age, and it was sadder to me than President Kennedy's assasination and I didn't take that well eitherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1151238258526715982006-06-25T08:24:00.000-04:002006-06-25T08:24:00.000-04:00Michele sent me, Sage!I've canoed around the Atlan...Michele sent me, Sage!<BR/><BR/>I've canoed around the Atlanta area too. I used to live there for about 11 years. The worst water I paddled was Class III that lead into Class III/IV but I pulled out right at a bridge when it made the transition. I have no desire to ever paddle Class IV or V, not even in a kayak. My need for adventure is minimal!<BR/><BR/>I'm 45 years old and my first visit to the deep South was around 1970 so there wasn't much evidence left in the tourist towns of the segregated past. Not at least to the eyes of a 9 year old. I'm not sorry to have missed it--things are bad enough now.utenzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15988445461413550750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1151234601096240482006-06-25T07:23:00.000-04:002006-06-25T07:23:00.000-04:00Pearl, you make an interesting point about those n...Pearl, you make an interesting point about those not realizing they were a "hated them" until seeing the history. But hopefully, they also realize that they were also loved as a people, whether it was by God (churches were the stronghold of the African-American community) or by the many whites who did try to change things. At this time, in the Institute, there is a history of the freedom riders (blacks and whites who rode the bus together through Alabama and Mississippi where they were beaten and jailed. And maybe too they learn that justice, even though it may take it's time, does prevail. <BR/><BR/>Panthergirl, yeah, saw that you had my alter-ego back in the hot tub where I get into all kinds of trouble! You can find the past post in my blog index, listed first under my blog list.<BR/><BR/>Welcome to my blog, Miss Cow (I don't like that way that sounds!)<BR/><BR/>Kenju, just so you don't get wrong idea about me being from Moore County, my ancestors were not golfers but tobacco farmers.<BR/><BR/>Mike, Welcome back! I've been to the Donner Pass many times and recommend "Ordeal by Hunger," the story of the Donner Party. I've never boated in California but have seen some of the rivers while touring gold mining camps. When I was spending a lot of time out there, I was living on the other side of the Mts, and Sacramento felt not only hot, but also humid (compared to Nevada and Utah)! Stay cool!sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17499891950639742366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1151208414313095172006-06-25T00:06:00.000-04:002006-06-25T00:06:00.000-04:00Amazing how BEING in a historical place can bring ...Amazing how BEING in a historical place can bring it all so suddenly to the present. There's places in California sort of like that for me, like when I visited the Donner party Memorial, up at Donner Lake. Realizing so many people froze to death on virtually that spot over a hundred years ago is somehow spooky. <BR/><BR/>There's some good class 3 and 4 rapids on the American River just east of Sacramento about 30-40 miiles. This time of year is really awesome because the river is flowing so fast from all the snow melt in the Sierra.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and, uhm... 100 Friday, 105 Saturday, 106 today, and should be above 100 for the next 3 days here in Sacramento. 110 further up the valley. <BR/><BR/>But, you know... it's a dry heat.Mike Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05274746511721978414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1151205187807503362006-06-24T23:13:00.000-04:002006-06-24T23:13:00.000-04:00Have a good flight. One of my kids lives in Moore ...Have a good flight. One of my kids lives in Moore Co. now. I wonder if she knows about their illustrious history (not!).kenjuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342414519714356343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1151186633465350492006-06-24T18:03:00.000-04:002006-06-24T18:03:00.000-04:00Here via Michele's this time. I have not spent any...Here via Michele's this time. <BR/><BR/>I have not spent any time in Birmingham.Sariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00962927403449841434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1151171292480737822006-06-24T13:48:00.000-04:002006-06-24T13:48:00.000-04:00Sage: I'll have to check that '68 post. Fascinatin...Sage: I'll have to check that '68 post. Fascinating about your parents!<BR/><BR/>I hope you've checked out the most recent Cyberia story about you and "Lucy". http://adventuresincyberia.blogspot.comPanthergirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03701693312528047037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1151163292999468592006-06-24T11:34:00.000-04:002006-06-24T11:34:00.000-04:00Michele sent me.What an important journey you're o...Michele sent me.<BR/><BR/>What an important journey you're on. <BR/><BR/>I recently read the story of Martin Luther King Jr's work in Birmingham.<BR/><BR/>The story of the 8-year old encapsulates the double-edged sword of educating. I'm always ambivalent about the teaching of the cultural history of racism. It's embedded in memories and literature and still explodes into action. We want to prevent such ignorance. <BR/><BR/>Still I remember being taught all the categories of people and the epitaphs and seeing the signs that banned "jews, dogs and irish" from premises and couldn't help but feel that was perpetuating and keeping pain alive and recreating for new innocents who didn't know they were a "hated them" until then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1151162113118109972006-06-24T11:15:00.000-04:002006-06-24T11:15:00.000-04:00Panthergirl, my parents in many ways were much mor...Panthergirl, my parents in many ways were much more enlightened than my friends parents (a capital offense at home was using the N word). Yet, they voted for Wallace (I wrote about my memories from 68 a few months ago). And class 1 rapids are barely rapids, you'd have no problems if you had someone experienced in the back of the boat.<BR/><BR/>Mal, if you get back to Birmingham, go to the Institute. I was there on busines too, but a friend who lives there suggested to a group of us that we check it out. I think I was the only one that did, the rest were flying out right after we were finished, but since I'd dropped my daughter in Atlanta to see "cuzzins," I had extra time.sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17499891950639742366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1151159056724797322006-06-24T10:24:00.000-04:002006-06-24T10:24:00.000-04:00thanks for the lesson. I was in Birmingham last y...thanks for the lesson. I was in Birmingham last year on business and did not even think to explore it like you have. I am thinking that is the larger lesson learned in your blog today.malhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12182913972445521943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1151152398084692712006-06-24T08:33:00.000-04:002006-06-24T08:33:00.000-04:00Wow, that sounds like an amazing place to visit. I...Wow, that sounds like an amazing place to visit. I distinctly remember driving from NY to Florida in 1967 and seeing "Colored Only" restrooms. Even at 12, that was appalling to me. (interestingly, my father was a huge racist at that time, and even voted for George Wallace for President in 1968. I did not subscribe to his views, thankfully.)<BR/><BR/>Your rapids experience sounds exciting, but also terrifying! I'm a real wuss when it comes to stuff like that.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, I've had some "adventures" that would scare the crap out of most people. ;)<BR/><BR/>Here via michele today!Panthergirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03701693312528047037noreply@blogger.com