tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post113710855032438895..comments2024-01-21T03:26:23.301-05:00Comments on Musings: Fallacies Abound: The State of Political Dialogue Todaysagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17499891950639742366noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1137710855327911032006-01-19T17:47:00.000-05:002006-01-19T17:47:00.000-05:00Oh my gosh! Now I know why you left me that commen...Oh my gosh! Now I know why you left me that comment on my blog saying that you needed to learn some of my meditation techniques.<BR/><BR/>I think it is virtually impossible to win a battle with someone like this Susie person. Anyone who reverts to using labels is, as you say, unable to use critical thinking. I can't stand to be labeled a liberal, or a democrat (people assume that I am both, probably because I have such an open mind. I don't consider myself anything.)<BR/><BR/>So, I was caught in a cat and mouse type of situation last month on someone's blog. She used my Purple Rant on her blog to illustrate how everyone in America--whether 'blue' or 'red'--should come together, as I proposed in my rant, and just consider ourselves purple. Well, she only sited me AFTER labeling people as dumb liberals, etc. I asked her not to link to my work when slinging mud at ANY political party, as this missed the entire point of my rant to begin with. This opened up a can of worms. Everyone on who visited her site began to leave slathing comments about me. I was in a lot of pain that day, and subsequently thought defending myself would be the thing to do. Ultimately, this person who ran the blog called ME immature because I didn't want her to use my work on her blog, and called me all sorts of names. I asked her to take me off of her blogroll, and then deleted every comment that I left on her post. I never visited that site again. And I'm happier because of it. My meditation teacher warned me that it's futile to try to win an arguement on a blog. Especially when the other person labels you: he or she already has their mind made up.<BR/><BR/>Now, here are some <A HREF="http://jaibhakti.blogspot.com/2005/11/meditation-instructions-just-for-you.html" REL="nofollow">meditation techniques</A> for you to try, if you ever cross paths with Susie again!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11135067059994902765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1137445816832602802006-01-16T16:10:00.000-05:002006-01-16T16:10:00.000-05:00Well, I've read the numerous referenced links and ...Well, I've read the numerous referenced links and the reactionary name-calling comments and posts on Suzie's sites and all I can say "Wow!" Ruffled her feathers is an understatement. I agree with Ed and most others that we have to open-minded and weigh evenly both sides of an issue. I, personally, haven't read Suzie's blog in the past but I can definitely say I won't be reading it in the future. Her reaction was extreme and, disagreeing with both her opinions and her comments to others, I'd probably be banned anyway. ;) <BR/><BR/>Anyhow, nice summarization Nevada Jack.Sonyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14506541511533351646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1137159258693506292006-01-13T08:34:00.000-05:002006-01-13T08:34:00.000-05:00I am a morning person and therefore didn't get in ...I am a morning person and therefore didn't get in on the debate and haven't yet been banned (although after what I wrote on my blog I probably have been too). So I banned myself.<BR/><BR/>The most thought provoking thing of it all was made by the Born Again Redneck who made a comment on his blog along the lines of, "Conservatives don't read Liberal blogs so why do Liberals read Conservative blogs."<BR/><BR/>Although not a Liberal, I would guess they try to stay in touch with all the people so they don't end up like the Conservatives on Susie's blog who have walled themselves off from the rest of society. The rationality of their debates proves this has happened.<BR/><BR/>Blogs are like friends, many come and many go. This isn't the first blog I have uninvited myself and it probably won't be the last. May all here learn a lesson from Suzie and try to be more open minded and rational.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13214319366049620074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1137134888548382792006-01-13T01:48:00.000-05:002006-01-13T01:48:00.000-05:00Christa has a good point. People tend to deny log...Christa has a good point. People tend to deny logic in favor of fallacies veiled as convictions. <BR/><BR/>I can see why suzie deleted christa's comments... she asked not to be fucked with that day...<BR/><BR/>Christa's right though. At least in myu humble democratic opinion. I'm sick of being lied to like I'm some kind of dumb-ass!I'm not even supposed to be here todayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14654391742998886080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1137134426933650742006-01-13T01:40:00.000-05:002006-01-13T01:40:00.000-05:00I admit -you had too much to say and i didn't read...I admit -you had too much to say and i didn't read it all. I came here through Suzie... she and I differ harshly on certain issues, but we know how to keep it clean. You managed to ruffle her feathers a bit. I had to side with her though - just becuase she ASKED people to delay their comments of opposition. She's normally game for a good debate, but she has every right to vent on her blog without accepting any shit for it.I'm not even supposed to be here todayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14654391742998886080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1137125915064552452006-01-12T23:18:00.000-05:002006-01-12T23:18:00.000-05:00Oh Suzie-Q! Wow, she gets so upset so quickly! Y...Oh Suzie-Q! Wow, she gets so upset so quickly! Yes, it was interesting last night to be a part of something so surreal. A woman who consistently contradicts herself on her own blog and then name calls anyone who calls her out on it. Here's the last comment I sent her before being "banned" from her site:<BR/><BR/>Staying up late to police your turf? What are you so afraid of? Needing to come up with more names to call me instead of actually coming up with a legitimate argument? Hey, you know I teach persuasion at a university in MN, if you'd like I could teach you how to actually defend your position without using too many fallacies that people can shoot through. But only if you ask nicely. ;-) <BR/><BR/>Guess she doesn't want to take me up on my offer. Too bad, I would have taught her some useful tools, and I would've done it for free. I guess the ignorant will live on.Christahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17619600669500170057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1137124975496896462006-01-12T23:02:00.000-05:002006-01-12T23:02:00.000-05:00i must not be reading enough...sage is a left-wing...i must not be reading enough...sage is a left-wing liberal? it's been a long week...i'll come back when i can think straight. :pkontanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06421013605338521092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1137121374036136402006-01-12T22:02:00.000-05:002006-01-12T22:02:00.000-05:00You know, Nevada Jack, that you will be forever br...You know, Nevada Jack, that you will be forever branded an unAmerican, communist, liberal, extreme left-wing whacko. Welcome to the club!<BR/><BR/>Nice post. I wish some people would open their minds and their ears long enough to at least hear what's being said and give it serious consideration. If they just give it a fair hearing, I think they will find none of what was said in yesterday's initial exchanges were outside the bounds of reasonable discourse. <BR/><BR/>I appreciate Sage trying to point out there was nothing malicious in my post, eventually sacrificing his good standing with Suzie to stand up for an important principle. Thanks Sage. And thank you to the others, now banished, who were brave enough to dare to ask a question or challenge a faulty assertion. One day, hopefully, some of these people will wake up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9454941.post-1137109359903672182006-01-12T18:42:00.000-05:002006-01-12T18:42:00.000-05:00Liberals will save the nationmynewsbot.comLiberals will save the nation<BR/><BR/>mynewsbot.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com